Post by demonlei on Sept 23, 2006 7:34:43 GMT -5
When I joined this game, the strategy was simple: Find Lich -> Kill Lich -> Repeat.
Now...
I apologize to stabs, ori, and WD for not understanding at the time (there were a LOT of things I didn't get at the time, Valletta's recurring confusion is not 100% RP) but I finally get why the interest in Debelge's domain...
...Victar sealed the portal, and the rare sealing spell can't be dispelled except by other rare spells. Greater Dispel doesn't cut it (had to reread logs to look this up). I thought opening the seal was as simple as spamming Greater Dispels, sorry folks.
So there is a chance Debelge's dimension is intact and the Staff of Illusion is in there waiting for us. Valletta could ask Victar whether he had the spell to open the portal memorized or a written version physically on him when he was kidnapped. (If he had it memorized, there is a chance Debelge didn't realize this... if it was physically on him, we're screwed.)
Of course, if we do open the portal and go after the staff, it will alert Debelge, and there's a good chance he'll ambush us in the dimension or just as we leave. If we don't, there's still a chance he'll acquire the opening spell somehow in the next few days and retrieve it. And there's always a chance that he already got the opening spell somehow, took it anyway, and left behind a trap.
Khyron can't scry the staffs directly (checked logs for this), so I'm sure none of us can either. On the bright side, none of the other liches can - Rician didn't know we still had the Staff of Conjuration until too late.
Also, if we went for the staff, we'd probably want to Wish (or Miracle) the phylactery out of the staff and crush it right away. Illusion dimension is a big place, and there's still a couple beasties roaming it; we'd want teleport spells to warp and seize the staff as quickly as possible.
So a day's rest to scribe/memorize Wish and some Teleports would probably be a good idea before going after the staff, unless we just want to expend Seo's scroll and her 30,000 (and I'm guessing that's a major no.
Er... what do you guys want to do at the start of next session? Still go after Maxi? Rest in Zarfmo? Charge into Debelge's dimension, even though we don't have Wish or Miracle memorized? Something else? Not like I know what the right move is anymore...
Other **** complex scenario issues...
- we have access to fewer teleports a day now... Valletta will try to help with that by praying for more Word of Recalls... are there some destinations that she should pick over others? She has to choose the destinations at dawn, and they have to be places that are "very familiar" to her.
- Jakkon's dimension was also sealed. If he hasn't been able to re-enter it yet, the stashed Staff of Abjuration with his phylactery is something else we could negotiate with. But if we were to destroy his phylactery, that would definitely crush any chance of negotiating a noninterference pact. Jakkon would go all Jana on us. His main weakness in the last battle was that he was too defensive... FEAR THE SUICIDAL ABJURER WITH NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE.
- It would be nice to rest and get Valletta's spent Greater Turnings back before going after Granil's staff.
- OK, OK, I *finally* get it, true resurrection can bring Adlai back. But Valletta is slightly concerned that if he were restored to life, Edal would be driven to murder him again. Adlai is a really, really horrible father.
- Am I the only one who is afraid it's only a matter of time before Skulryke and Jarret sic the entire Jal'Nareth army on Quanor?
- Valletta's current spell list has a fair amount of heals, greater dispels, and dispel evils left, but not much in the way of fancy tricks - she's still set up as if to battle Valdien.
www.sylnae.net/3eprofiler/view.php?id=22582
- I, uh, just realized... we destroyed the gems powering lich dimensions, and left the staffs in the dimensions. Rician's dimension was in sorry shape when we last saw it. Does this mean the other dimensions will self-destruct soon? And take the remainder of the sealed staffs with them? We may not have 20+ days after all...
- I hate you, Spus. At this rate I'm going to have to learn how to DM to get revenge on you. Just as soon as I figure out how these mysterious "Fighter" classes work...
Now...
I apologize to stabs, ori, and WD for not understanding at the time (there were a LOT of things I didn't get at the time, Valletta's recurring confusion is not 100% RP) but I finally get why the interest in Debelge's domain...
...Victar sealed the portal, and the rare sealing spell can't be dispelled except by other rare spells. Greater Dispel doesn't cut it (had to reread logs to look this up). I thought opening the seal was as simple as spamming Greater Dispels, sorry folks.
So there is a chance Debelge's dimension is intact and the Staff of Illusion is in there waiting for us. Valletta could ask Victar whether he had the spell to open the portal memorized or a written version physically on him when he was kidnapped. (If he had it memorized, there is a chance Debelge didn't realize this... if it was physically on him, we're screwed.)
Of course, if we do open the portal and go after the staff, it will alert Debelge, and there's a good chance he'll ambush us in the dimension or just as we leave. If we don't, there's still a chance he'll acquire the opening spell somehow in the next few days and retrieve it. And there's always a chance that he already got the opening spell somehow, took it anyway, and left behind a trap.
Khyron can't scry the staffs directly (checked logs for this), so I'm sure none of us can either. On the bright side, none of the other liches can - Rician didn't know we still had the Staff of Conjuration until too late.
Also, if we went for the staff, we'd probably want to Wish (or Miracle) the phylactery out of the staff and crush it right away. Illusion dimension is a big place, and there's still a couple beasties roaming it; we'd want teleport spells to warp and seize the staff as quickly as possible.
So a day's rest to scribe/memorize Wish and some Teleports would probably be a good idea before going after the staff, unless we just want to expend Seo's scroll and her 30,000 (and I'm guessing that's a major no.
Er... what do you guys want to do at the start of next session? Still go after Maxi? Rest in Zarfmo? Charge into Debelge's dimension, even though we don't have Wish or Miracle memorized? Something else? Not like I know what the right move is anymore...
Other **** complex scenario issues...
- we have access to fewer teleports a day now... Valletta will try to help with that by praying for more Word of Recalls... are there some destinations that she should pick over others? She has to choose the destinations at dawn, and they have to be places that are "very familiar" to her.
- Jakkon's dimension was also sealed. If he hasn't been able to re-enter it yet, the stashed Staff of Abjuration with his phylactery is something else we could negotiate with. But if we were to destroy his phylactery, that would definitely crush any chance of negotiating a noninterference pact. Jakkon would go all Jana on us. His main weakness in the last battle was that he was too defensive... FEAR THE SUICIDAL ABJURER WITH NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE.
- It would be nice to rest and get Valletta's spent Greater Turnings back before going after Granil's staff.
- OK, OK, I *finally* get it, true resurrection can bring Adlai back. But Valletta is slightly concerned that if he were restored to life, Edal would be driven to murder him again. Adlai is a really, really horrible father.
- Am I the only one who is afraid it's only a matter of time before Skulryke and Jarret sic the entire Jal'Nareth army on Quanor?
- Valletta's current spell list has a fair amount of heals, greater dispels, and dispel evils left, but not much in the way of fancy tricks - she's still set up as if to battle Valdien.
www.sylnae.net/3eprofiler/view.php?id=22582
- I, uh, just realized... we destroyed the gems powering lich dimensions, and left the staffs in the dimensions. Rician's dimension was in sorry shape when we last saw it. Does this mean the other dimensions will self-destruct soon? And take the remainder of the sealed staffs with them? We may not have 20+ days after all...
- I hate you, Spus. At this rate I'm going to have to learn how to DM to get revenge on you. Just as soon as I figure out how these mysterious "Fighter" classes work...
